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Can a Local MP Transform a City? Sally Jameson’s Vision for Change | S2 EP4
From prison officer to Member of Parliament, Sally Jameson's journey exemplifies her commitment to creating meaningful change where it matters most. In this illuminating conversation, she reveals why working within government is essential to transform criminal justice and how her first year as Doncaster Central's MP has been a whirlwind of possibility.
Sally shares her vision for Doncaster with remarkable clarity and passion. "This really is our moment in Doncaster," she declares, pointing to several transformative projects that could redefine the city's future. The campaign to reopen Doncaster Airport stands as a testament to community determination, while the bid for AI growth zone status could position Doncaster at the forefront of technological innovation. Her fight for a new hospital demonstrates her understanding of what matters most to constituents.
What makes Sally's perspective particularly valuable is her practical approach to change. She acknowledges the financial constraints facing the government while maintaining unwavering advocacy for her constituency. "We need to feel better off in all corners of the country, not just London, Manchester, Newcastle, Edinburgh," she explains, highlighting her commitment to rebalancing economic opportunity.
The conversation explores the delicate balance of AI regulation, the challenges of Labour's first year in government, and how Doncaster can attract both public and private investment. Throughout, Sally's dedication to creating opportunities that will encourage young people to build their futures in Doncaster shines through.
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The reality is, if you really want to make significant change in the criminal justice system, you've got to do that in government.
Speaker 2:And is that why you chose to become an MP? Because you wanted to make change.
Speaker 1:Living in London full-time wasn't the one for me, so I did a couple of years down there. I enjoyed it, I got some experience and then I moved back home and that's when I went into prison service.
Speaker 2:What do you think this Labour government needs to do to get re-elected? Deliver the change that people want to see? We're still paying for Covid as a business, as a country, even Decisions that were made some time ago that weren't necessarily your policy, that we're having to pay for, and our debt as a country is the worst it's been since World War II. Where do you stand on AI regulation?
Speaker 1:I think we've got to get it right.
Speaker 2:When do you think we can see something coming from the government around regulation? Is there a timeframe at the moment? Hi and welcome to this episode of the Automated Analytics podcast. Today I had a chat with Sally Jameson, mp for Doncaster Central, and it really was quite an enlightening chat with her about the first 12 months of being an MP but also the impact that Sally's been able to have for the city of Doncaster being an MP in the party that's actually leading the country. Hope you enjoy the episode. If you do, don't forget to like and subscribe. Welcome back to the Automated Analytics podcast Today. I'm delighted that I've got Sally Jameson, mp for Doncaster Central, with us. Sally, welcome to the show, thank you. Thank you for having me, mark. Excellent stuff. So you've been an MP for 12 months. How's it been?
Speaker 1:It's been brilliant. It's been a bit of a whirlwind, it's been a real whirlwind, but it's been a fantastic experience, and to get to represent Doncaster and to get to be a part of the Labour government and to really start delivering for our city means a huge amount to me.
Speaker 2:Is there anything that's been unexpected that you thought, oh, I wasn't expecting that as an MP? Or has it gone to plan?
Speaker 1:I think when you first get elected, what you don't realise is that you walk into Parliament on the Monday after the election, you get given a laptop and then you get told run an MP's office and then start to answer all the emails and casework that you get from constituents. So I probably didn't anticipate how busy it was going to be in that kind of area, but it's all been very interesting.
Speaker 2:Good. So I think that busyness it's interesting because Rosie was MP for Doncaster for a number of years but she was in opposition, Whereas now you know you're a member of parliament for the government, as it were, and when you look at things you know we've got Doncaster Airport that, hopefully is going to reopen. You know, I know, you're pushing very, very hard for a new hospital. We've got the AI growth zone that we're bidding for. At the moment it feels like Doncaster really is, in the last 12 months, really starting to move forward. Why do you think that is?
Speaker 1:Definitely. I feel like this really is our moment in Doncaster. It's been a really big 12 months and I think it's going to be a big decade for us. I think the reason why is because, first of all, I think that local partners in Doncaster work incredibly well together. I think the Doncaster Chamber of Commerce under Dan Fell do an incredible job, the council do a fantastic job in promoting business, and then we've got good people like yourself, of course, mark, who are doing their absolute best to champion Doncaster. I think there's been a real shift politically as well, to look away from London and the big cities like Manchester and actually look to places like Doncaster to get growth, because really, if people are going to feel the benefit of a better economy, if people are going to feel the benefit of a Labour government, we need to feel better off in all corners of the country, not just London, manchester, newcastle, edinburgh and I think that's the shift, is the focus on areas like this. In a way, it hasn't been for, you know, for decades probably.
Speaker 2:As a business owner of a business in Doncaster, I feel that as well. I feel that really since Labour's come in and because obviously a lot of our local politicians are you know, Labour based, as it were.
Speaker 2:Obviously, a lot of our local politicians are, you know, labour base, as it were. It does feel like there is this nucleus of energy that is driving focus away from London a little bit and investing in certain parts of the country, and I think that's really where Doncaster needs to punch above its weight. What do you think and you kind of mentioned about me, you know, but also you've mentioned, you know, dan Fell at the Chamber, you've mentioned Damien Ross. What should we be doing collectively to help support you, drive that investment into Doncaster?
Speaker 1:no-transcript that are really going to transform our city.
Speaker 2:And that's brilliant to hear from our local MP. Now, obviously, westminster it's not the first time you've been there, I believe. Actually, if I look at your career, you actually were in Westminster before you became an MP, is that right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I worked down in Westminster for two years in my early 20s. So I did work down there for a couple of years. If I'm honest, living in London full time wasn't the one for me. So I did a couple of years down there. I enjoyed it, I got some experience and then I moved back home and that's when I went into the prison service. So a bit of a shift change then.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so what about the prison service? I think I just I was always wanted to either go into the prison or the police service, and so when I moved back up from London after a couple of years, I thought, well, what do I want to do now? And I think that it's a very challenging job. I think we'll say and you know, prisons have been in the news really for all the wrong reasons recently and it's facing a lot of problems that we're trying to resolve.
Speaker 1:But I think what being in the prison service did was make me think about why I want to be in politics, and I think one of the things that was very clear to me is that you know, I was in a prison that had over a thousand offenders, loads and loads of fantastic staff who worked incredibly hard and you know, quite a big budget. But the reality is, if you really want to make significant change in the criminal justice system, really want to bring down that re-offending and bring the kind of changes that see people live different lives, you've got to do that in government. And that's what made me, you know, as much as I absolutely loved being in the prison service when the opportunity came to stand, when Rosie Winterton Baroness Rosie Winterton now said that she was retiring. I thought I'm going to put myself forward. This is my shot to really have an impact in areas like that and bring change.
Speaker 2:And is that why you chose to become an MP, because you wanted to make change? Yes, now, that's an interesting point, because I think there's a number of MPs that we have worked with, also members of the House of Lords. How can you affect that change? How can you, as an MP from Doncaster, make that change or help make that change?
Speaker 1:I think it's a case of speaking up in Parliament and making sure the constituents' voice is heard and putting things on the agenda, whether that's the airport, whether that's hospital, the AI growth zone or anything else really not just for Doncaster, but for the South Yorkshire region, which I think is going to be incredibly important as we have a lot more devolution and just making sure that our voices are heard, are on the map and making sure that those at the very top understand what we need to fulfill our potential.
Speaker 2:You've been very, very good at getting questions asked the Prime Minister at PM's question time. You know one of the only leaders in the world that gets questioned every week almost and has to report what's been your success of being able to get those questions asked. How have you been able to do it?
Speaker 1:To be honest, there's a ballot and you get picked out of it. There's absolutely no science. You have to submit every week and then names essentially get drawn out of a hat. So I'm afraid there was no skill to it.
Speaker 2:Just luck, but it's great that Keir Starmer, along with the airport, recognised our growing AI industry in Doncaster, which, you know, automated analytics is very much part of. Why do you believe Doncaster deserves an AI growth zone over another conurbation?
Speaker 1:Because we're the best. Obviously, I think that we deserve an AI growth zone because I feel like Doncaster and places similar to Doncaster, to be fair, need to be the drivers of future industry and whether that's green technology, whether that's sustainable aviation or indeed AI, I think it's important that places like Doncaster are given the chance to be leaders in that in order to really rebalance the economy and shift away from London and the southeast. Also, I think that we locally have shown that we're willing to put our money where our mouth is. You know, we've got the fantastic new tech hub being built near the railway station where you're going to be, which is going to be fantastic Gateway One. So I think that we've shown locally that we're committed to being part of this new industry, to be part of AI. We had our reception in Parliament, which I hosted along with yourself. We had the chamber down there which was about AI and growth in places like Doncaster. I think we've shown a real commitment to that area and I sincerely hope we're rewarded for it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I must admit, when I pitched Damien, the idea of going through our growth zone and Dan and yourself, I was amazed how quickly we got together, got the plan together. There's very much, I think, a can-do attitude, particularly in Doncaster but also in South Yorkshire. I was really pleased to see how the South Yorkshire Mayoral Authority had got involved and have really backed us and support us. Now, obviously, when it comes to the airport, you know what can be, should be, a very big thing for not only local economy in Doncaster but also the wider South Yorkshire economy. What is the airport going to open? Is there anything we should be doing? Is it a question of time now, do you think, or what's left for it to happen, to kind of fully open for passengers?
Speaker 1:Yes, so there's a final decision being made as South Yorkshire Mail combined authority around the money in September but it is going to open and you know it's just so important for our area and I think losing the airport really was really symbolic for us as an area and it was just a huge blow.
Speaker 1:And I think the incredible community campaign that was run by Mark Chadwick and others really demonstrated the strength of feeling and that, along with you know, rod Jones and politicians at the time it was before I was elected I think really that drove that fight to get it reopened and I think to have turned around and got us to the point where we are now in just a matter of a few years is really incredible Because when you look at other similar examples where areas have closed, they never managed to turn it around like we have in Doncaster and get us to a point where we're on the cusp of reopening and to get the government support and get the £30 million of devolved funding to have the Prime Minister come here and to the airport itself. I think really is incredible and I think it is just an example, like you say, of the can-do attitude from Damien in Ros, from the council, from the South Yorkshire Mayoral Combined Authority, from the business community, from politicians at all levels. It really has shown the very best of Doncaster grit and determination.
Speaker 2:Because Mark's done a great job of leading the kind of Save Doncaster airport and I think when I look at the success of some of these initiatives, it's a balanced approach. You know, we've got yourself, we've got the chamber, we've got the council and then you've got a local business leader or someone outside of the public sector helping drive it as well. And for me I just think the airport opening is just a massive uplift for everybody. I mean one. It'll save me from going to Heathrow or Manchester when I've got to fly to America. So anything to do that would be great. So just hope there's the right carriers that are going to drive that, if you like. There's people to use the airport, because I think the airport is one of those things where it's a use it or lose it. We aren't going to get another chance. There's going to be no third bite of the cherry. It is going to be a case of people are going to have to commit and use it or we're just going to lose it Definitely.
Speaker 1:I think absolutely about using it, and myself and Lee Pitcher, who's obviously the MP for the airport in Doncaster East, new Isle of Axome, ed, you know and John Healy, we're all absolutely determined as MPs to support that in any way we can. We've Lee Pitcher chairs a Doncaster Airport Action Group down in Westminster where MPs from relevant constituencies meet together. We've met with different airlines. We've met with TUI, ryanair, we've met with the Civil Aviation Authority and we're constantly striving to make sure that we're doing all we can and providing any political support or any other support. Frankly, that's required to make sure we get it over the line as quickly as possible.
Speaker 2:And I think it's brilliant that you've been able to get I mean, if I look at it, you know Keir Starmer's been to CIS twice, I think in the last 12 months've um had the deputy here as well, I think twice, two, three times as well and to get that engagement. You know, in some ways I feel sorry for for rosie, because she did such a service for us as as a, as a city that we are now and I feel, in some ways I feel a little bit sorry because she was always in opposition. You know she was never uh with the party that was in power, but she left you a brilliant legacy to step into. Were Were you ever daunted about stepping into Rosie's shoes at all?
Speaker 1:Oh, absolutely. She did 27 years as the MP for Doncaster Central. She was actually in the last Labour government.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:And then obviously took the party through opposition for 14 years as the opposition chief whip and then as the deputy leader of the House. So you know massive. She used to feel she's an incredibly important figure, even you know, still now, definitely, and I think I take a lot of inspiration from Rosie and what she managed to achieve here, but also just the legacy she's left. I don't go anywhere where someone doesn't speak highly of Rosie and I think if I can get to the end of my career in politics, however long or short that may be, and have people feel the same way, I know I'll have done very well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely, and I'm a massive fan of Rosie because purely the 27 years long, long time in politics and the impact she had, I mean it's great to see you know she's now a Dame. What's the one thing that you've learned from Rosie, then, that you've kind of taken forward in your career in politics?
Speaker 1:I would say probably never stop pushing, never stop fighting, and there's always, you know, another way you can lobby or fight for something that you want to get for your area, because she managed to do that all the time and really speak up for Doncaster. You know publicly and behind the scenes as well. She's also got an incredible shoe collection which I will never match. Just to be clear, that's a 27 year shoe collection.
Speaker 1:I'll never try and live up to that. But yeah, I think her determination and I think is something to really draw from.
Speaker 2:Yes. So you mentioned about your career. Obviously it's not been an easy 12 months, for the Labour government had to make some very, very hard decisions. You know, as an employer, we've had taxes go up. You know we've had the winter fuel debacle, which was a bit of a debacle. At the end of the day, what do you think this Labour government needs to do to get re-elected? Because there's a lot of noise from reform. The Conservatives are still trying to work out what they're trying to do and what their message is. Where do you think, or what do you think, labour government needs to do to get re-elected?
Speaker 1:I think we've got to deliver the change that people want to see, whether that's on cost of living, whether that's on making sure there's opportunities all over the country, which is kind of what we've been discussing whether that's on dealing with people's concerns around immigration. We've got to get to the end of the term, the end of the five years, and be able to say this is a change we've delivered. And it is a tall order and you know, as I mentioned, I know from the prison service, you know that is not an overnight fix. You know it's been an incredibly difficult year for the criminal justice system, but we are taking the decisions that are going to reap medium and long-term benefits, to bring real reform in that area. And it's the same with other areas of government as well.
Speaker 1:And I think, at the end of the day, if we can get to the end of the five years and we've brought people's bills down, the country is prospering, and say we've dealt with the concerns around immigration, I think people will see that we have the Labour government has delivered for them and delivered places like Doncaster as well. I think that's going to be really important because it's easy to say numbers like the economy's grown by X amount, or GDP is this or that, but I think people need to feel that in places like this in order for us to have been a success. So you know, look, it's only been a year and I think it's easy to forget that. It's easy to forget it's only been 12 months and Rome wasn't built in a day, as say, and I think people, I think people are giving us a chance actually, in the main, to actually deliver on the manifesto commitments we made and improve ourselves.
Speaker 2:I think I think the challenge has been that I think people believed that there was going to be an overnight change and we're still paying for Covid as a business, as a business as a country, even, um, that you decisions that were made some time ago that weren't necessarily your policy, that we're having to pay for, and you know our debt as a country is the worst it's been since World War II, which is a pretty amazing stat to kind of understand.
Speaker 2:And so therefore, in some ways, your hands are a little bit tired in terms of what you can do, but it's, I think, you're right. People have got to feel that you know the pounds in their pocket, almost they've got to feel the benefit, uh, to themselves, and that's why I think the more we can push locally, yeah, um, and make an impact in doncaster, because, as part of the AI growth zone, I was just astounded at the average wage that is paid weekly is so far down in Doncaster compared to other areas, even the national average. You do wonder how people do actually survive. So where do you see Doncaster next five, 10 years?
Speaker 1:With an airport that's open. I, as you mentioned earlier, fighting for a new hospital and, I think, actually providing that, you know we do get everything off with the i-growth zone uh, more investment in green industries, in sustainable aviation. I want to be able to turn around in five or ten years and see Doncaster as really thriving and prospering and people growing up here wanting to stay here because there's a jobs and opportunities that there probably wasn't before, and so I think that will feel like a success if we get to that point Doncaster really on the map and also South Yorkshire as a combined authority. I think it's really important now, you know, on the kind of international stage or pushing forward as the South Yorkshire Mayoral Combined Authority and really bringing in that investment, bringing in private investment as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because it's fantastic to have government investment. Of course it is, and we'll always be fighting for that. But I think I would also like to get to a point where our areas are attractive so big investors want to come to Doncaster, want to come to South Yorkshire and put their money, because that's how we will really expand in untold ways.
Speaker 2:And I think it is that private investment that the UK needs. I think we're okay at it, but I think there's better opportunities. One of the reasons why we want to create an incubator in Doncaster at the growth zone, at Gateway One, is to help mentor companies to go and find that private investment to help them build that through the connections that we've built up over the last 10 years of being privately funded ourselves. So just talking about AI for a second, obviously you helped us launch our paper on AI regulation. The government, whilst it's come out with some papers, it's not really come out with any AI regulation at the moment and there does seem to be this little bit of imbalance between the House of Commons and the House of Lords in terms of where AI regulation needs to go. And you've even got Elton John wading in where AI regulation needs to go. And you've even got Elton John wading in. And I must admit, when you get Elton John wading in on AI regulation, it must be big.
Speaker 2:Where do you stand on AI regulation?
Speaker 1:I think we've got to get it right. Basically, I think we've got to get it right so that we are allowing the industry to flourish, but there's also the right protections in place for example, in relation to elton john around the creative industries and making sure you know songwriters and artists are getting properly reimbursed for the work they do, and you can copy and paste that principle to a whole raft of industries. I think it's important that we protect people and we protect people's wages in that sense. But AI is happening and so you need to make it work for us and we need to make sure that we're on the bandwagon and getting from the get-go, really, so we can be the world leaders in it, we can make the most money from it and make sure that it's adapted to society. It was, rather than us adapting to it.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:So I see a really bright future for AI and I think that people are already using it every single day, even if they don't realise they're using it. So it's part of our lives now and it's just making sure that we're in control of that.
Speaker 2:The hospital or a new hospital in Doncaster. It's a very, very emotive subject, and the more we've started to work with the nhs. I think there's two things at play with hospital. There is the motivation of the staff that work there because, I think it can be quite demoralizing with, you know, sometimes the reputation or some of the feedback that they see. I think the second thing is the actual facility itself. Where are we with getting a new hospital for doncaster?
Speaker 1:well, if I'm going to be a little bit political for a second, if you'll allow, I am still really quite angry that we weren't on the 40 new hospital list. That was done in the last government. I think we should have been on that list, deserve to be in, I think, a hospital within a position where it should have been. But we are where we are. The money wasn't there for those hospitals that were promised, never mind anything else, and this government's now had to go and find that capital and honour what was committed to before the election. So that's left us in a bit of a situation really.
Speaker 1:I have had regular meetings with Wes Streeting, who's a health secretary, and Karen Smith, who's the Minister of Hospitals, and they fully understand the situation that we've got in Doncaster. So I you know I've raised it in Parliament a number of times and I'm going to push to make sure that we get the capital we need to, at the very least in the sort of short and medium term, get the hospital we've got in a better condition and a proper refurbishment and a proper rebuild. And then you know, I'm also simultaneously pushing for that brand new hospital that we want in the medium long term. But, as you said, the money is tight and we have to honour the commitments that were made before the election, but it is something that I'm focused on on a near daily basis, pushing for this, and I think that Doncaster needs significant investment in its healthcare infrastructure, and that's what I'm determined to get before the end of this parliament.
Speaker 2:But a new hospital is not a cheap ticket. It's not no.
Speaker 1:It's over a billion pound.
Speaker 2:And so, therefore, to get that commitment, that's a pretty big commitment. What can we do locally? What can we do to support you to get that?
Speaker 1:Oh, it's funny, you should mention. I do have a petition running at the minute. Excellent, it's not an e-petition because it's a parliamentary one that I'm going to hand in in the House of Commons Chamber to the Speaker. So I'm doing lots of supermarket surgeries and droppings all over Doncaster to get signatures for that, because I think what it's important to do is just keep the pressure on and show the strength of feeling, in the same way we do with the airport. You know, making sure that government are aware. Actually, this is a problem that we need to resolve and it's not something we can do locally because of the amount of money it requires um. So I think, making sure that voices are heard and signing the petitions, making um noise on social media, making noise on podcasts like this, really, and bringing it to the attention of everyone that this is what's needed.
Speaker 2:But I'm regularly raising it myself as well in parliament absolutely, because my experience of of local NHS has been fantastic.
Speaker 1:They've done a brilliant job.
Speaker 2:You know, my daughter had a baby at the hospital.
Speaker 1:You're a grandad.
Speaker 2:I know, I know you can't believe it, can you? I'm a grandad, but she had an amazing experience. The care that she got was amazing and I think sometimes people forget that the human side of the NHS is is the staff that work there they need the motivation, they need to be seen to be doing a good job and and sometimes I think we sometimes forget that.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. The staff at DRI, you know, really are incredible and, as you say, they're not working in the best building in the world by any stretch of the imagination. So they do a really fantastic job in those circumstances and we're very lucky to have them.
Speaker 2:Now just going back to AI for a second. We've spoken about regulation, but where do you see the government using AI?
Speaker 1:Well, in all areas of government.
Speaker 1:I think it will be in all areas of government in the end, whether that's um, you know, in dwp, in department work and pensions.
Speaker 1:I think can see it being used in health care, definitely. We've talked a lot about how it'll be used in health care. Um, you know there's a lot of uh science and research going into ai and predicted illness, you know before, long before it happens, which would really transform how we treat health and make it far more preventative rather than a cure, which I think you know it's not only good for people but it's good for NHS and its budgets and everything else as well. So I think AI and NHS is going to be massive. You know, in really very, very soon in the criminal justice system, in prisons. You know when it comes very soon in the criminal justice system in prisons, when it comes to tagging, keeping track of offenders. I think there's all sorts of things that AI is going to be used for and I think even probably well, you'll know better than me, but maybe in less than 10 years we'll look around and it'll be in every government department.
Speaker 2:You'd hope so, and I think one of the things that we've found, even with the NHS, is that they have to monitor their emergency calls and they're manually transcribing, manually redacting. It's taken hours and hours just to do that, whereas use a solution like ours, they can do it in 0.2 of a second and analyse 10,000 calls in 0.2 of a second. But I think it's.
Speaker 2:For me, ai is about removing some of those mundane back office, so it frees them up to do more front line better service, as it were, and I think what's interesting is about the AI industry, from what I can see, is that there's a lot of talk about it but there's very little practical examples of where it's been used to a benefit. You know well, the theory is this whereas, yeah, we're in the lucky position that we've got that, that practical example, so I think you're right in terms of 10 years time, but it feels very much like and and you know, I was around in 2000 when it was the internet was my first job, I think it was uh, an email had just come out and everybody, everybody wanted the internet but didn't know why. Ai is a little bit like that. I think the industry will will almost get get serious and it's going to be a lot more about those practical applications. I think and I must admit, I think the support from yourself in terms of driving that regulation locally as well as within Westminster, really is quite helpful, and I think that's one of your.
Speaker 2:You know, one of the big sea changes I've seen is that because you're in power, it's great being in opposition. Rosie always said to me seen, is that because you're in power, it's great being in opposition, rosie always said to me, when you're in opposition, you can only recommend, you can't push it through, and I think you've got a very, very powerful role to play locally in being able to help us push that through. I mean, I know you're very good at getting your meetings with Peter Carl, and the Minister for AI, I believe is going to come to Doncaster at getting your meetings with Peter Carl and Ferrell Clark. The Minister for AI, I believe is going to come to Doncaster at some point in the next six months to see us All great stuff. But it's about you continually pushing that agenda.
Speaker 2:I think for Doncaster will make the real difference. I think for us. So just kind of coming to the end of the podcast now is in terms of your career within politics. You know you are very ambitious. When I first met you I don't know if you remember it was before you got elected you came to our offices.
Speaker 2:You were on the campaign trail and you struck me as someone who was very, very ambitious, which is great to see, great to see, was very, very ambitious, which is great to see, great to see. Obviously, you're a reasonably young MP. Where would you like to see your career go? Within politics?
Speaker 1:Well, politics is a strange thing because you only really get five years at a time and you never know if you're going to get a second term. So I think for me at the minute I just want to really bed in and do absolutely everything I can for Doncaster in the next long term. So I really just want to focus on driving that, helping to drive that forward with everyone else and then see if you know, the good people of Doncaster re-elect me at the next election.
Speaker 2:Well, I also think it's a springboard, if you get what I mean. So so I think what you're doing is great, but we've got to keep going. We can't stop. So we get the growth zone right. What's the next thing? And I think, in terms of your career as a politician, it's finding that next thing. So it's the airport, it's the growth zone, it's the hospital. How do we move forward? Because I admire your ambition to get Doncaster on the map. I really really do.
Speaker 2:I think I've told this story many times. It was downfall that challenged me to stop talking Doncaster down and talk it up. And I think it's a great city. I really do. It's given me two kids and a granddaughter. You know it's my adopted home, but for me, I can feel the difference and we've just got to keep going, keep pushing, as you were saying earlier. Listen, thank you very much. One, thank you very much for coming on the podcast. Two, thank you for your commitment to Doncaster. It's greatly appreciated. I don't know if anybody ever has said thank you, but I appreciate what you've done for the last 12 months. But please keep pushing on behalf of Doncaster, because we do appreciate it.
Speaker 1:I will do. Thank you for having me and thank you for all you do as well, Mark.
Speaker 2:Thanks, sally, appreciate it.